22 January 2009

The Archdall Family of Victoria, Australia

These three photographs I found on TradeMe (NZ's version of eBay). The family seem to have been in Australia so not sure how the photos turned up in NZ.

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  • Subjects: Henry & Margaret Archdall & son Henry Sutton Archdall.
  • Date: c1885
  • Photographer: Verey Bros, Castlemaine
  • Found: Helensville, NZ

The first place I searched was the National Archives of Australia, where I found the following entry:-

ARCHDALL HARRY SUTTON : Service Number - VX26011 : Date of birth - 04 Feb 1919 : Place of birth - CASTLEMAINE VIC : Place of enlistment - CAULFIELD VIC : Next of Kin - ARCHDALL H.

Series number B883 which turned out to be - the Second Australian Imperial Force Personnel Dossiers, 1939-1947.

At first I thought the above photo of a young boy with his parents seemed likely to be the best candidate for Henry Sutton but I realised that the photograph is a lot older than a birthdate of 1919 suggests, it's more likely to have been taken in the 1880's or thereabouts. So I bit the bullet and paid to do some research on the Victorian BDM Homepage.

  • Birth 1878 Henry Sutton, father Henry Thomas H Archdale, mother Margaret Preshaw.
  • Marriage 1877 Henry Thos Hewan Archdall to Margaret Mathers Sevier
  • Death 1941 Henry Sutton Archdall, father Henry Thomas Hewin Archdall, mother Margaret Mathers Sevier

Which shows that Henry Sutton's mother had a different surname on his death entry to the one on his birth entry. On further investigation I found that his mother had previously been married, which fits in with my thoughts that she looked rather old for Henry Sutton to have been her first child.

  • Marriage 1854 Margaret Mathers Preshaw to George M Sevier

Henry Sutton had at least five Sevier half siblings - William George b1855 d1939,  Percy Nairne b1857 d1936, George Ogilvy b1860 d1917, Isabella Margaret b1862 (married Henry Benjamin Kilburn 1884) and John Charles b1864 d1934.

In 1915 Henry Sutton Archdall married May Willemena Wham. May died in 1952, she was the daughter of Samuel Wham & Jemenia Emilia Maguire. They had a son named Harry Sutton Archdall b1919, the one in the above dossier.

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  • Subject: Grandfather & Grandmother Archdall
  • Date: c1885
  • Photographer: Grourelle, 69 & 71 Swanston St, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (photographer's name on the other photo has been cut off).
  • Found: Helensville, NZ

Grandfather Archdall is Henry Thomas Hewan Archdall born 19 Mar 1835 in Tintern, Wexford, Ireland, son of Thomas Hewan Archdall and Henrietta/Hetta Sarah Sutton. Grandmother Archdall is Margaret Mathers Preshaw born 10 Mar 1837 in Scotland, the daughter of William Fisher Preshaw and Isabella Will Ogilvy. Henry died in 1900 and Margaret in 1914.

Thomas Hewan had a few siblings and at least one brother, William Caesor Archdall, who also married & had a family in Australia.

Thomas & William were the sons of the Reverend William Archdall of Tintern, County Wexford in Ireland who graduated from Trinity College, Dublin University, County Dublin, Ireland, in 1793 with a Bachelor of Arts (B.A.). He was the Rector between 1798 and 1843 at Tintern, County Wexford, Ireland. He graduated from Trinity College, Dublin University, Dublin, County Dublin, Ireland, in 1832 with a Master of Arts (M.A.). He held the office of Prebendary of Trecolme between 1843 and 1844. He lived at Seaview, County Wexford, Ireland, (near Fethard).


If anyone is interested in these photos and/or family please contact me.


Vivienne Archdall said...

Thankyou for your photos. I have always wondered what my Great Great Grandfather looked like. I am a decendant of Henry Thomas Hewan Archdall. Les is my cousin and my father is Mervyn Archdall.
Please post any other photos you have, I would be most interested.

Best Wishes
Vivienne Archdall - Melbourne Australia

courtneycotton01@gmail.com said...

Vivienne, please contact me on pandora@kci.net.nz as I still have the photos and would love to send them to you if you'd like them. Or else leave me a viable email address to contact you with thanks.

Unknown said...

Hi there, I'm not sure if this is still a viable site. Vivienne, I think we share an ancestor in Isabella W. Ogilvy - Margaret Archdall (nee Preshaw)'s mother. If you would like to contact me, I live in BC Canada and my email is: gonebattye@hotmail.ca Thanks! Noni Battye

Unknown said...

The photos possibly ended up in New Zealand because Margaret nee Preshaw's brother David Ogilvy Preshaw died 8 June 1903 at Reefton, New Zealand.

Unknown said...

The photos possibly ended up in New Zealand because Margaret Archdall nee Preshaw's brother David Preshaw, lived at Reefton and died 1903 in Reefton New Zealand