01 October 2016

Are they sisters Caroline Ella & Martha White of Onamalutu?

The next two photos from the James Spencer White Album are not named but I think they could be two of Spen’s sisters, possibly Caroline Ella on the right and one of her older sisters, perhaps Martha who was six years older and never married.


The second photo and the young woman on the right in the other photo look to be the same person, her hair style and large white ribbon makes me think she is the one sitting next to her father in the family group photo from the last post. The woman on the left looks to be the same woman standing behind her mother in the family photo.

However, this is just speculation on my part and as the photo of the two women was taken in Wellington and they both lived in Onamalutu (as far as I know) which is near Blenheim in the Wairau Valley, it may not be them although they could have been visiting Wellington as it was only a boat trip away!

Caroline Ella died in Oct 1914 aged 21 and is buried in the Tuamarina Cemetery along with other members of her family including Martha who died in Sep 1935 aged 47.


Dawn Scotting

James Spencer White 1891-1971


According to the inside cover of this small post card album it once belonged to one J S White who turned out to be James Spencer White known as ‘Spen’. Inside are many lovely old photos from before and after the turn of the century, unfortunately there are many with no names but some are named so I will attempt to identify as many as I can. The first photo in the album is obviously a family group and luckily I’ve been able to identify the father as being Charles White MBE of Onamalutu in Marlborough, New Zealand (There’s a photo of Charles White found in a Temperance Newspaper dated 1916 & reprinted in the book ‘Plum Duff & Cake’). Charles was Spen’s father, possibly he is the one sitting next to his mother Elizabeth Ann neé Botham.


I originally thought the photo might have been taken about the same time as the date on the album – August 1914 – but on further investigation I found that their eldest daughter, Ann, had died on 15 May 1913 aged 33 so it must have been before that date. The young lady on the extreme right standing at the back looks to be quite young, maybe 14 or thereabouts and their youngest daughter, Elizabeth Alice, was born in 1898. Charles & Elizabeth had at least nine sons and five daughters (that I’ve found), they were:-

George 1878-?; John James 1881-1881; Frank Oldham 1882-1924; Charles Botham 1885-1907; William Botham 1890-1924; James Spencer 1891-1971; Albert Henry 1895-1981; Alfred 1897-1897 & Robert 1900-1900.

Ann 1879-1913; Mary 1883-1941; Martha 1887-1935; Caroline Ella 1893-1914; Elizabeth Alice 1898-1984.

The only person I don’t have a death date for is eldest son George so if he isn’t in the photo then it would have been taken before the death of son Charles Botham in 1907, in that case Elizabeth Alice would have been less than 9 years old and she’s definately older than that!

References: Marlborough Museum; Papers Past; NZBMD Online


If you can help identify anyone in this photo please leave a comment including a contact email address. More photographs of this and other families from the album to follow.
(With many thanks to Chris Ward for his help).


Dawn Scotting

13 August 2016

Two Clifford Sisters

From the Norman/Clifford Family Album


I’ve had to do a lot more research on the Clifford family to make sure I had the right two women in this photo, I’m still not 100% sure but I think I’ve found most of the Cliffords in the branches who are connected to the husband of the owner of this album Lucy Jessie Norman.

Lucy’s husband, William Wigram Clifford, had two sisters named Ellen Thomas and Emilia Templeton, both with the intials T C but none with the initials of E T C and there is no female in the family with the initials of E T C (in the right time frame) so I’m presuming that here we have Ellen and Emilia, as to who is who don’t ask me!

Apart from finding an Ellen T Clifford aged 42 in the 1881 census, single and living with/visiting her mother’s brother in Wales, I can find absolutely no other source for her at all except for this photo. In other trees on ancestry they give a birthdate of 1837 and a death date of 1916 but with no proven sources.

Her elder sister was Emilia Templeton Clifford, born 31 Jan 1833, date found in another tree with no proven source, however, her death was registered in the 1qtr of 1898 aged 65 in the RD of Bawnboy in Co Cavan, Ireland. The woman standing in the photo looks to be older than the other one so I’m presuming she is Emilia. Emilia married the Venerable Reverend William Creek on 22 Sep 1863 in the Kildallon Church, Co Cavan (see previous article on their daughter Isabella Ogle Creek).

I found the following information on The Irish Bomfords website here:-

In addition to the Cliffords at Greenville, mention should be made of their cousins of Carn Cottage at the other end of the Parish of Kildallan. Both branches of the Clifford family worshipped at Kildallan Church in which there are a number of Clifford wall memorials and many were buried in the churchyard. Robert Clifford, 1792 - 1855, a Captain of the East India Marine (HEICS), bought Carn Cottage around 1833 and brought up his eight children there, but on his death his wife Mary Jane let the place in 1858. Incidentally the marriage of Captain Robert and Mary Jane in 1825 was an unusual double wedding of two brothers, Robert and Richard Clifford, and two sisters, Mary Jane and Catherine Morgan-Williams. General Robert Clifford, 1839 - 1930, Captain Robert’s second son known as ‘Bob’, of the 22nd Sam Browne Cavalry and the 2nd Punjab Cavalry who served during the Indian Mutiny, settled his family of six children at Carn Cottage in 1881, and lived there himself after his retirement in 1894 until he died in 1930. Carn Cottage was sold in 1933 for £l,900 by the General’s son Jack, 1877 - 1970, and is now derelict. And so two generations of Cliffords, the children of Captain Robert and those of General Robert, were brought up at Carn Cottage and a number died there and were buried at Kildallan Church where General Robert’s brother-in-law, Archdeacon William Creek, was Rector until he died in 1899. Thus in 1882, when Frederick Bamford arrived at Killashandra, there were five unmarried daughters at Greenville and four at Carn Cottage.

Like the Martins, these Cliffords were either living in Co Cavan or working in India. Even the sad death of two Cliffords in the Indian Mutiny of 1857 did not deter them from going out to India. The story of these two from the Carn Cottage branch is worth recording. General Bob’s sister, Mary Jane, had gone out to India to keep house for her brother, Wigram Clifford of the Bengal Civil Service, and also, no doubt, to find a husband. When the Mutiny broke out Mary Jane was in Delhi acting as a bridesmaid for the daughter of the Delhi Chaplain. When the mutineers arrived the girls tried to hide under a sofa but were dragged out and murdered. Meanwhile Wigram heard that the mutiny had erupted locally and immediately set out on horseback on the long ride to Gurgaon south of Delhi to warn the garrison there, only to discover that they had got the news on the previous day. He was soon after murdered at Gurgaon together with many loyal soldiers and civilians. Agatha’s father, Richard Henry Clifford, survived the mutiny but only after many escapes; he finally dressed as an Indian and took refuge with the family of one of his loyal servants. General Bob Clifford just missed the Mutiny because the ship taking him to India as a cadet broke down in the Atlantic and was six months under repair on the east coast of South America. When he arrived in Calcutta the Mutiny was over and he learnt of the deaths of Wigram and Mary Jane. An American missionary told him that his sister was known as “the beautiful Miss Clifford” and that Wigram, being in the ICS, had no business to leave his post and join the troops.

Carn Cottage, Belturbet, Co Cavan, Ireland


The General Robert Clifford mentioned above as ‘Bob’ was the younger brother of Ellen & Emilia and the older brother of William Wigram, his daughter Helen is the subject of this photo which luckily included her address and date the photo was taken on the back. When I found the above article it all fell into place, well most of it! Helen was born in India on 22 Jan 1876 which puts her age at 13, looks about right. On the 5 Mar 1897 she married Robert Montrésor Lowis in India.






The information on this photo was written in black ink on a dark brown background on the back of the photo so it was barely readable and unsuitable to scan!

So far the only Catherine in the right time frame for this photo is Catherine Mary Clifford, first cousin once removed, of William Wigram Clifford. She was born on 20 Apr 1868 in India, daughter of Richard Henry Clifford.

However, according to the same article on the above website Catherine’s nickname was Kitty not Katie so she may be another Catherine that I haven’t found yet.












I’ve only just noticed my typo, it should say Francis not Frances of course! Strangely I had to go back three generations to find the link between Frank’s family and William Wigram’s, they are third cousins once removed.

Francis Awdry Clifford was born 14 Oct 1884 in India, the son of Miller Hancorne Clifford and Louisa Mann neé Peterson. Miller Hancorne & William Wigram shared 2xgreat-grandparents - Robert Clifford 1690-1761 & his wife Mary neé Boyd.


These are the last photographs that I’ve been able to identify from the Clifford/Norman Album, please do contact me if you are interested in anyone from these families. Sadly I haven’t been able to identify anyone in the two large photographs in the front of the album that were probably taken in India.

Dawn Scotting

15 July 2016

Lucy Jessie Norman 1856-1924

From the Norman/Clifford Family Album


This is the best I could do with this photo, it didn’t scan well and obviously my knowledge of PhotoShop is not as good as I thought it was! Someone had done a bit of colouring with what looks like a crayon so that didn’t help either.

I can’t say with 100% certainty that this is a photo of Lucy Jessie Norman but from what is written on the back it seems quite likely. Someone named L J N was sending it to W W Clifford and as William Wigram Clifford was Lucy Jessie Norman’s future husband it seems she was sending him a photo of herself while she was either living in or visiting Lausanne in Switzerland in 1874, they were married on the 19 Oct 1876 in Jhansi, Bengal, India.

Lucy would have been aged 19 when this photo was taken, she was born in India about 1855, unfortunately a birth or baptism for her doesn’t seem to exist so that’s why it took me so long to unearth just who L J N was. Luckily I finally came across her marriage certificate that showed her father was Sir Francis Booth Norman, presumably her mother was his first wife Eliza Ellen neé Nisbett.

As far as I know William & Lucy Clifford had seven children, they were:- Frank Robert; Paul Adams; Lucy Emilia; Norman Hopper; William Patrick; Edith Melville and Maud Mary.

Sometime soon after Maud Mary was born in 1890 the family emigrated to the South Island of New Zealand where they settled in Timaru.

William died on the 7 Jan 1920 and Lucy on the 24 Apr 1924, they are buried together in the Timaru Cemetery in Canterbury, New Zealand.


Dawn Scotting

11 July 2016

Frances Ellen Norman 1857-1932

From the Norman/Clifford Family Album


I’m not quite sure just what this name is, it looks like Facey Mantt but in the end I decided upon Mrs Fanny Marett or Marrett 1891, what do you think, and is that Miss or Mrs? It was sitting in the album next to Henry Norman Marrett and his mother was Frances Ellen neé Norman, she would have been aged 33 when this was taken, she does have a young looking face with lovely skin but quite matronly for a 33 year old I would have thought.

Frances Ellen Norman was born in Punjab India on the 16 Oct 1857 and baptised there on 13 Jan 1858, the daughter of Francis Booth Norman and Eliza Ellen neé Nisbett, and the sister of Lucy Jessie the presumed owner of this album. Frances married Henry Richard Marrett in Bengal India on the 11 Mar 1878. In the English 1911 census they had been married 33 years and had two children both of whom were still alive, they were Ida Evelyn and Henry Norman Marrett.

Henry Richard Marrett was a Colonel in the Indian Army, he passed away in Ealing, Middlesex on 3 Jul 1916 aged 64 and Frances Ellen joined him on the 14 Oct 1932 aged 74, she had been living in Sandon, Essex.


Dawn Scotting

08 July 2016

Henry Norman Marrett 1878-1961

From the Norman/Clifford Family Album


This young boy was the nephew of Lucy Jessie Norman, the eldest child of her sister Frances Ellen Norman who married Henry Richard Marrett in 1878 in Jhansi, Bengal, India.

Henry Norman Marrett was born on 15 Dec 1878 and baptised on 30 Mar 1879 in the St John’s Church in Peshawar, India:-


I’ve added his baptism here because as you’ve probably noticed he was actually born in 1878 rather than the 1879 written on the photo. I’m not sure you’ll be able to read it, if you click on the image you’ll get a larger version of it. Peshawar is now in Pakistan right on the boundary with Afghanistan.

Henry went on to become a doctor and was in charge of the Merivale open-air sanitarium in Essex for many years.


In 1909 Henry married Florence Dering Mathew-Lannowe and they had three children:- Norman Dering Marrett 1910-2008; Joan Marrett 1912-2005 and Henry Rex Marrett 1915-2003.

After Henry retired he & Florence are to be found on many ships’ passenger lists including travelling to the USA, South Africa, India & Mozambique. Florence died at home in Sandon near Chelmsford, Essex on the 7 Apr 1945. In 1961 he was living in Kellythorpe, Sandon but later that year Henry died in Bangalore, India on the 24 Dec 1961.

References: British Journal of Tuberculosis; FindMyPast; Ancestry.


Dawn Scotting

07 July 2016

Catherine Jessie Norman 1847-1916

From the Norman/Clifford Family Album


Catherine Jessie Norman was the sister of Henry Wylie Norman and one of twins born to Sir James Norman and Charlotte neé Wylie. Kate, as she was known, was born on 10 Dec 1847 and baptised on 1 Feb 1848 in Calcutta, India, her twin was Lucy Margaret.

On 12 Jan 1870 in India she married Charles Paton Keyes who later became a Knight of the Realm. Their children were:- Norman Babington; Roger John Brownlow; Dorothea Agnes; Charles Valentine; Terence Humphrey; Catherine Mary; Phyllis Marion; Adrian St Vincent and Madeline Helen.

General Sir Charles Paton Keyes died on the 5 Feb 1896 and Lady Catherine Jessie Keyes on the 10 Mar 1916 at Hampton Court Palace. Her burial service was in the St Lawrence Church, Seale, Surrey but her body was subsequently removed to Shorncliffe by order of the Home Secretary. She is probably buried with her husband in the Cheriton Road Cemetery, Folkestone, Kent.


Dawn Scotting

06 July 2016

Henry Wylie Norman 1826-1904

From the Norman/Clifford Family Album


The first photo of Uncle Henry also has the initials ‘LJN’ written on the back, once I’d found who LJN was it was easy to work out that Uncle Henry was Henry Wylie Norman, the brother of Lucy Jessie Norman’s father. Then I found the other photo of him online and knew I had the right person. There is an excellent article on Field-Marshal Sir Henry Wylie Norman on this webpage, he had a very distinguished career.

Henry Wylie Norman was the son of Sir James Norman & Charlotte neé Wylie, born on 2 Dec 1826 and baptised at the St Luke Old Street Church, Finsbury, London on the 11 Jan 1827.

Henry married three times, first to Selina Eliza Davidson on the 14 Apr 1853 at West Bengal, India. Their children were:- Mary Lucy 1855; Helen Campbell 1856; Annie Forde 1857; Jessie Macleod 1860 and possibly a son Henry Alexander who died at sea in 1858. Selina died in 1862 aged 30 of an abscess on the liver.

Henry’s second wife was Jemima Ann Knowles who died a year after they married in 1864, no children.

Henry’s third wife was Alice Claudine Sandys, their children were:- Walter Henry 1871; Grace Alice 1873 and Claude Lumsden 1876.

This photo was also in the album, probably from LJN’s first cousin Helen Campbell Norman, sent from India when she was 19 years of age, compare this photo with another one of her taken 10 years later, on this webpage here:-


This next one from the album is a bit of a mystery, on the back it says ‘LJN – Aunt Claudine W. 1870’, the only Claudine I’ve come across so far is the above Henry Wylie’s third wife, Alice Claudine neé Sandys. She might have been known as Claudine rather than Alice but if so what does the ‘W’ stand for? It was taken in 1870, the year she married Henry Wylie Norman and she does look like she might be dressed to be married BUT there are other photos of Alice Claudine claiming to be her and I don’t think they look alike, so perhaps my Aunt Claudine W belongs somewhere else that I haven’t come across yet, what do you think?




Dawn Scotting

05 July 2016

Eugenie Elizabeth Huddleston & Maud Goodenough Hayter

From the Norman/Clifford Family Album



This photo was not in the Hayter Album as one would expect but in the Norman/ Clifford Album. The two people in the photo are not named but it is signed on the back by Francis Hayter so I presume they are his wife, Eugenie Elizabeth, and one of his daughters.

Francis died in 1891 while he was in England for an operation and so he would have had to have sent this photo before then. I had originally thought the young girl was about 12 or so and the only one of his daugthers to have been old enough by 1891 is Maud who was born in 1880. The next daughter is Gwendolyn who was born in 1884 and I think the girl in the photo is older than 6 or 7, what do you think?

So the Hayter & Clifford families obviously knew each other long before their children, Graham Goodenough Hayter and Edith Melville Clifford, met and married in 1910 in New Zealand.


Dawn Scotting

03 July 2016

Charles Boswell Norman 1846-1926

From the Norman/Clifford Family Album

Now that I’m fairly sure that the Clifford/Norman album originally belonged to Lucy Jessie Clifford neé Norman I’m able to pinpoint a little more accurately just who some of photos in the album are. On saying that these next two photos are somewhat of a guess as they don’t give a full name.


These two photos were sitting next to each other in the album, named as shown.

Charles Boswell Norman was born in Calcutta, India on the 9 Jan 1846 and baptised 3 Feb in Fort William, Bengal, the 4th son & 6th child of Sir James Norman & wife Charlotte neé Wylie. In 1876 he married Jessie Maude Rogers in London.

In the 1881 & 1911 census he’s listed as being a ‘retired captain in the Army’.

In this family there are many men in the Army and any of them could have been a Captain at any stage of their Army career, so it’s hard to say for sure if this is Charles Boswell, he would have been Lucy Jessie Norman’s uncle, brother of her father Lieut-General Sir Francis Booth Norman.

M Norman may be Captain Norman’s wife if she was known Maude rather than Jessie. If she is Jessie Maude she would have been aged 27 when this photo was taken.

I would love to hear from anyone who might know for sure who they are.


Dawn Scotting

23 June 2016

Isabella Ogle Creek 1867-1930

From the Clifford Family Album




Isabella Ogle Creek was born on 19 Jan 1867 in Ballyconnell, Co Cavan, Ireland, the daughter of The Venerable Rev’d William Creek and Emilia Templeton Clifford – here we have the first intimation that we have a Clifford family connection! So far I haven’t found the Ogle name in her ancestors but I’m sure there must be one somewhere, otherwise why would you give a girl such an unfeminine name?


Her father was the Archdeacon of Kilmore and living in the Kildallon Rectory, Co Cavan when he died on the 14 Sep 1899 aged 62.

On the 18 Sep 1888 she married Lowry Cliffe Loftus Tottenham and they had 8 children, 7 of them still living on 2 Apr 1911. The first six were sons:- Harry Leslie William 1889-1970; Armar Cecil 1891-1891; Reginald Loftus 1893-1961; Edward Lowry 1894-1916; Arthur Henry 1896-1916; James Loftus 1897-1922; and the two youngest daughters Isabel Joice 1900-1926 and Eileen Etta 1903-1981 <-- and here we have a New Zealand connection. Eileen Etta met & married Stewart Bates Merrylees, who had been the commanding officer of her brother James Loftus during the war.

Eileen & Stewart emigrated to Auckland, New Zealand in 1953 where they lived until their deaths, Stewart in 1966 and Eileen in 1981, they are buried in the Waikumete Cemetery in Glen Eden, Auckland. According to the Tottenham/Lowry family tree on The Tottenham Family website they did have children. On the same website you’ll find photos of most of Isabella’s children, including Eileen Etta, and also one of her husband, none of Isabella though.


Dawn Scotting

14 June 2016

Dr David Morton Jack 1853-1890

From the Clifford Family Album

Case Study: Dr & Mrs D M Jack


David Morton Jack was born on 11 Nov 1853 and baptised on 9 Dec in the Girthon Kirk, Kirkcudbrightshire in Scotland, the son of the Rev’d Hugh Morton Jack and Martha Sharpe neé Forrester. By the age of 17 he was already a medical student and within the next few years had joined the Army and was in India where he married Dora Fanny O’Flahertie on the 10 Sep 1879. David & Dora had two sons, Hugh born in India and William born in England. Over the years David worked his way up to Surgeon General before sadly he died on 13 Sep 1890, at the young age of 36, in Sitapur India where he is buried in the British Cemetery in the Parish of Roti Godam. The probate of his will said he was ‘late of Farncombe Lodge in Godalming, Surrey’.

Dora Fanny O’Flahertie was born on 1 Aug and baptised on 2 Nov 1856 at St John the Baptist Church in Capel, Surrey where her father, Theobald Richard O’Flahertie, was the vicar for many years, her mother was Mary Anne neé Scott.


Her parents had a large family of 10 daughters & 4 sons and there is an excellent article on them and a small photo of the family including Dora on this website here - Oughterard Heritage. Unfortunately the photo was quite pixelated so not very clear, I’ve superimposed Dora on the photo I have of her, she does look to be the same woman so I feel sure I’ve found the right couple to go with these photographs. Dora passed away on the 29 Apr 1930 in Dulwich, Surrey and is buried in the churchyard where she was baptised 73 years before, St John the Baptist Churchyard, Capel.


I see from Dora’s burial record that she was known as Dora Fanny Morton Jack so perhaps Morton-Jack was a hyphenated surname?


Do please contact me if you have an interest in these two photographs.


Dawn Scotting

12 June 2016

Charlotte Christina Agnes & Eliza Hersey Wauchope

From the Clifford Family Album

Case Study: The Wauchope Sisters


These two delightful young girls are sisters Charlotte, nearly 12, and Hissey, nearly 11, Hissey/Hessey I’m guessing is a nickname for Eliza Hersey who was one year younger than her sister Charlotte Christina Agnes. They were the daughters of Robert Adam Wauchope and Amelia Henrietta neé Norman, both born in Rawul Pindee, Bengal, India, Charlotte on 3 Aug 1866 and Eliza on 10 Aug 1867.

Robert Adam Wauchope is much documented on the Internet so no need for me to go into too much detail, he was born Edinburgh in 1836 and seems to have served in the Army in India for most of his adult life, retiring as Major General at the age of 49, he died in Brighton, Sussex in 1885 aged 62. He & wife Amelia (Amy) had seven children, two of whom died as babies. Charlotte & Eliza were the two eldest.

Charlotte married civil engineer Edmund Batten Forbes in 1885 in Kent, England and they had at least six children born in various countries around the world including Chile & Mexico. They must have finally settled in London where Edmund died in 1924 and Charlotte in 1958.

Eliza married Joseph Francis Studholme in 1902 in Chelsea London:-


Joseph is listed as a New Zealand Sheep Farmer as well as his father John Studholme. I found this baptism for Joseph in the Knottingley parish records but I’m not sure whether it says he was born in New Zealand or Yorkshire! His parents abode is given as ‘Christchurch, New Zealand’ but he was born on 10 Mar 1866 and baptised on 22 Apr 1866 which doesn’t compute if you consider the sea voyage from NZ to England in those days would take at least three months! So I’m guessing (again) that his parents had been living in NZ and had journeyed to England for his birth before returning home again:-


Joseph & Eliza don’t seem to have had any children, I don’t think they had time as they did a lot of travelling around the world on various ships over the years. Joseph died in London in 1930 and Eliza in Masterton, NZ in 1948.

07 June 2016

Ellen Home Husband 1847-1936

From the Francis Hayter Album

Case Study: Ellen Home Husband


What do you think, is this the same woman? She looks like it to me, the same nose, the eyes & ears might be slightly different but she is wearing the same earrings and what looks like the same dark ribbon around her neck.

Written on the back of each photo is a different given name written in different handwriting, or is it:-


Here we have Nellie H Husband and what looks like Emma Husband, although the ‘Emma’ could be almost anything, all the letters flow into each other! I suppose it could be ‘Ellen’ but it certainly looks like an ‘a’ at the end. I also found these two unnamed photos in the album, both look to be either the same woman or at the very least sisters of the above:-


The third woman has the same wave in her hair as the photo named Nellie, she is also wearing the black ribbon with the same trinket hanging on it. The fourth photo was taken in England not Sydney (Australia) like the other three. As Nellie was only 5 years old when she emigrated to Australia it’s not a younger her, she later moved back to England when she was in her 30’s.


Ellen Home Husband was born in Bayswater, London and baptised on 27 Oct 1847 at the Holy Trinity Church in Paddington, daughter of James Husband and Caroline Jane neé Home. James & Caroline’s other children were:- Thomas 1831-32; Caroline Frances 1832; Cordelia Jane 1835; James Home 1836; Frances Home 1838; Herbert George 1840-41; Emma Jane 1844 and Emily Herbert Matilda 1850.

James Husband originated from Devonshire and their first six children were born in Stoke Damerel, Devon before they moved to London, the three youngest were all born in Bayswater.

On the 24 Dec 1852 Mrs Husband, her five daughters and son James, arrived in Port Jackson in NSW, Australia on the General Hewitt. I don’t know when husband James arrived but he was also living in Sydney until his death in 1878.

The photographer of the third photo is Mr Freeman who had by this time taken over Oswald Allen’s studio, in it the woman is wearing rings on her wedding finger so it may not be Nellie because she never married, however, they may just be dress rings.

Nellie was in Australia up until the 1881 census when she is now living back in England, visiting the White family in London, over the next few census she is listed as visiting various people in London & Dorset. On the 19 Apr 1936 she passed away at 18 Campbell Rd, Boscombe, Bournemouth, Dorset. The probate of her will went to the Westminster Bank so she may not have had any family left.

What connection, if any, the Husband family have to the Hayter family I have absolutely no idea! Although I’ve been told that the White family (who Nellie was visiting) are connected to the Hayter family, time will tell.

04 June 2016

Harold Selwyn Smith 1828-1891

From the Francis Hayter Album

Case Study: Harold Selwyn Smith


There doesn’t seem to be a family connection between the album owner, Francis Hayter, and Harold Selwyn Smith, however, I did find a connection between Harold’s second wife and the Fetherstonhaugh Album, see further in this article.

Harold Selwyn Smith was the son of the Reverend John Jennings Smith & his wife Anne neé Timberlake, born in Kingsholm, Gloucestershire and baptised in the St Michael’s Church in Gloucester on the 7 Oct 1828.harold-baptism2

Some say the Rev’d John was the illegitimate son of King George IV, although there doesn’t seem to be any proof of that it’s an interesting theory which you can read about in the excellent article on this website here.

On the 11 Jun 1839 John Jennings & Anne Smith, along with 8 of their 11 children, boarded the vessel ‘Amelia Thompson’ in London bound for Australia, they arrived in Port Jackson on the 28 Sep 1839. Amongst their children was 4th son Harold Selwyn Smith who later in various sources is listed as a ‘merchant of Melbourne’.

On 8 Oct 1853 Harold married Camilla Rosa Hart, they had four children:- Fanny Anne Lloyd 1854-1923; William Hamilton 1855-1857; Montague Selwyn 1857-1932 and George Charles 1858-1922 before Camilla passed away in 1860 aged 25, probably in childbirth as there as an unnamed Smith birth registration, with Camilla listed as the mother, in 1860.

Harold remarried on the 18 Feb 1864 to Madeleine Elizabeth Kelly (whose mother was Hannah Fetherstonhaugh & sister of this William Fetherstonhaugh of Grouse Lodge in Ireland, her father was also related to Robert Vandeleur Kelly, both of whom you’ll find in my Fetherstonhaugh Album). Harold and Madeleine had a further six children:- Hubert Selwyn 1864-1881; Alice Caroline 1867-1940; Cecil Selwyn 1869-?; Edward Selwyn born 1871 in Ireland; Emily Florence 1875-? and Madeleine Ethel 1877-1964.

Harold Selwyn Smith was a man of many talents, this is just a short timeline of his achievements:-

1839 - arrived at Port Jackson on the 'Amelia Thompson'
1860 - land & estate agent, accountant & arbitrator at 54 Queen St, Melbourne
1866 - director of The Southern Insurance Co at 31 Queen St, Melbourne
1867 - owner of the vessel 'The Torque' that was lost off North Cape, NZ on 7 Jun 1867
1871 - in Kingstown, Dublin, Ireland where son Edward was born (maybe visiting Madeleine's family)
1875 - arrived in NZ with wife Madeleine (& presumably their children) on the 'Alhambra'
1875 - appointed General Manager of the NZ Shipping Co at a salary of £1500 per annum
1876 - elected a member of the Philosophical Institute in Auckland (where his photograph was taken)
1876 - appointed clergyman's churchwarden at St Mary's Church, Merivale, Christchurch (where a  magnitude-6.3 earthquake struck on 22 Feb 2011 killing 182 people)
1877 - daughter Madeleine Ethel born in NZ
1877 - fined 40 shillings for having two unregistered dogs
1878 - marriage of eldest daughter Fanny Anne Lloyd Smith (her mother Camilla) in NZ
1879 - gave notice of his willingness to act as director (of NZ Shipping Co) if elected at the AM on 13 Aug 1879, still general manager at that stage
1879 - being considered for a select committee of the Diocesan Synod in aid of Church Day Schools
1879 - ceased as manager of NZ Shipping Co, no reason at present
1880 - donated a bust of Bishop Broughton, first bishop of Australasia, to the Canterbury Museum
1880 - bankrupt and left NZ suddenly
1881 - Justice of the Peace in Merivale, Ashfield near Sydney
1888 - member of the Social Purity Society (Australia)
1890 - accountant & arbitrator in Sydney

It seems he may have left NZ under somewhat of a cloud, he tried to explain in his own words "I venture to trouble you with a brief epitome of my introduction to your service, and the manner of my leaving it", in these letters from the NZTEC archives here (be prepared for a long read!). In the many newspaper articles I read about Harold there was nothing more after 1880 so he was obviously not charged with any wrongdoing although I did come across this sentence that leaves me wondering:-

Selwyn Smith proved himself worthy of his detractors' vituperation. He was found to have used the Company's funds to ease his private engagements and was placed in bankruptcy in 1880, owing also a considerable debt to the Loan Company.

Harold died on 14 Mar 1891 and is buried in St John's Anglican Church Cemetery, Ashfield, NSW and Madeleine on 6 Jul 1924 at South Yarra, Melbourne.

References: ancestry.com.au; NZETC; Paterson River History; FindMyPast; PapersPast; Trove; NZBMD Online; Christchurch Libraries.



St Mary’s Church, Merivale, built 1866, photos taken in 1916 and just after the 2011 earthquake.
© Christchurch City Libraries: IMG0046.